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Collector tried the Oral fluid collection first time, nothing. Gave donor some water and waited 10min still nothing. Waited another 10 min still nothing. DER informed and allowed the donor to go to lunch. Came back after lunch for a 4th collection finally successful. How many times must a collector try to collect oral fluid specimen before getting authorization from the DER to conduct an alternative collection. Was the decision of the DER to send the donor to lunch a correct one?